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January 10, 2010

How Gandhi extended the life of the British Empire

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Gandhi did not bring the British Empire to its knees—they had already decided to leave. By supporting the war “Recruiter-in-Chief”, Sergeant Major Gandhi extended colonialism, and sent thousands to their death as cannon-fodder.

His failures, Pedophilia and sexual perversion fetishesJallianwala Bagh massacre

Gandhi condones Zulu massacres and defends the British. Aug 4 1906
Gandhi was a creation of the British and they used him to get the South Africans to fight in the British wars. He also stratified the South African society. From Oct. 1899 to  May 31st, 1902 Mahatma Gandhi did not mention in “Non-Violence.”At the beginning of the South African War, Gandhi argued that “Indians must support the War effort in order to legitimize their claims to full citizenship. ”

By supporting the British in the Boer War, their war against the Zulus, and the World Wars, Mr. Gandhi actually extended the life of the Empire and enhanced their ability to hold on to the Subcontinent. Using Mr. Gandhi as the self-proclaimed “Recruiter-In-Chief” help send thousands of People to the war effort of the British.

cliveJallianwala Bagh massacre of a horrible event of British ruleLord Curzon attacks to get to the oxus

The British Indian Empire included India, Iraq, Burma etcGandhi was a failure in South Africa and a failed attorney in Bombay. His failure hardened “Apartheid” and it took decades to dismantle it. This created a rift with the Black of South Africa who rejected this. Gandhi urged the colonial authorities to raise a volunteer militia of Indians to fight for the Empire. Gandhi informed the “South African Natal Authorities” that it would be a “criminal folly” if they did not enlist Indians for the war. Mr. Gandhi urged the Indian community to show their loyalty to the British Empire by raising funds for the War. He reminded them that they were in South Africa due to the courtesy of the Empire.India. Indians drink cow urine which they call gaumutra. It is interesting to see the “finer things” of India. Stuff that you don’t see in Bollywood movies, and India’s Marketing Inc. Apprently cow urine is sold in bottles and in tablet and cream form in India. The internet is full of websites on the so called advantaes of drinking cow urine. One website called a cow, “a walking pharmacy”. Some sell it as “steralized and completely fresh”

Gandhi did not bring the British Empire to its knees—they had already decided to leave.

A plethora of information is now coming out of many sources shedding light on the life of Mr. Gandhi and his support for the British war machine, his disdain for the Africans in South Africa and his advice to invade Kashmir, and his suggestion to the Sikhs to not let their swords rust is contrary to the image of the pervert marketed in the West.

It costs us millions to keep Gandhi in poverty” Sarojini Naidu Friend of Gandhi

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After  Gurdaspur, a Muslim majority area was illegally given to India Kashmir’s link is to India. Why waste people’s time to ask such silly questions? The Naxalites want independence. Why doesn’t India give it to the millions.It is nonsensical to say that Gandhi won freedom for the Subcontinent “without spilling a drop of blood.”Non-violence was just a slogan. 5 million died in 1947.The article of Accession is now lost, was never signed and may never have existedMap of the British empire with hundreds of states in the Subcontinent

Obviously the tug of war continues. India’s attempts to destabilize Pakistan will continue.  The solution is to absorb all the Pashtun areas into Pakistan and then combine Afghansitan as Afghania  into PakistanMap of Pakistan that was proposed

Gandhi vehemently supported the prolongation of the British Raj in South Asia. He was a loyal citizen of the British Empire, which he thought was the most benevolent in the world. He wanted to perpetuate the Empire–so he coerced Indians to go and fight for the empire..he as its “Recruiter In Chief”.

Mr. Gandhi was firmly opposed to independence..the entire spectrum wanted independence,e Jinnah, Ambedkar, Akali Dal, the Muslim League, Jamiat e Ulema Hindh, the RSS and the Jan Sangh—only Gandihi wanted “dominion status” based on on British overlordship.

This bitter divide split the Congress between Gandhi and Nehru. Here is Gandhi asking Nehru “to Go Slow”–a euphimism for continue the British Raj.

I have not been able to find the letters on the internet–but Jaswant Singh narrates them in his book Jinnah. they are listed on Pages 158-161 (hardcopy).

Page 159: In a letter dated January 4, 1928, he [Gandhi] told Nehru..’you are going to fast’….’you should have taken time to think and become acclimated. Most of the resolutions you framed and got carried could have been delayed for a one year. Your plunging into the Republican army was a hasty step….’but I do not mind these acts of yours [badly timed, ill-judged resolutions] so much as I mind your mischief-makers and hooligans. I do not know whether you still believe in Non-violence. But even if you have altered your view, you could not think that unlicensed and unbridled violence is going to deliver the country. If careful observation of the country in the light of your European experiments can convince you of the error of the current ways and means, by all means enforce your views, but please do form a disciplinary committee

“On January 1928, Gandhi responded to Nehru’s denail of the Gandhian self. he tells Nehru that he mush have historically suppressing his tru self al these years. he is free to ‘revolt againsg me’. The article criticizing Nehru and the work of the Madras annual session were a misfire all around. ‘I had to notion of the terrible extent of [our] differences’. Whou you were in state [of self-supression], you overlooked the very things which appear to you now as my serious blemishes’. Similar criticisms on previous occasions were noticed because while you [were] under stupefaction, these things did not jar you as they do now…’the differences between you and me appear to me to be so vast and racial that there seems no meeting ground between us.

Page 159: An angry Nehru replied on 11 January 1928: It amazes me to find you using langauge which appears to be wholly unjustified…you have….specially slected some resolutions for…criticism and condemnation…You have referred to discipline..

Nehru then cut to the substance…’you have described the Independence Resolution ‘hastily conceived and thoughtlessly passed”..no stretch of language can justify the use of the words “hastily conceived..thoughtlessly passed”…a demand of independence and all that implies has come to mean a great deal for me and I attach more importance to it than to almost anything else..I doubt if anyone outside a small circle understands your position..

Nehru then turned to the more general questions of Gandhi’s ideas and leadership, questions which bear more directly on the modernity–post modernity divide. ‘You know how intensely I have admired you and believed in you as a leader… I have done so spite of that fact I hardly agreed with anything that some of your previous publications–India Home Rule [Hind Swaraj] etc–contained. I felt and feel that you were and infinitely greater then your little books. Since you have come out of prison [Feb. 1924] something seems to have gone wrong…You…repeatedly changed your attitude…most of us were left utter bewilderment…I have asked you many times what you expected in the future and you answers have been far from satisfying..you..said that..you expected the khadi movement to spread rapidly…the miracle has not happened..I am beginning to think if we are to wait ’till khadi becomes universal in India, we shall have to wait a ’till the Greek Kalends…out khadi work is almost wholly divorced from politics…What then can be don? You say nothing..you only criticize and no helpful lead comes from you…

Page 160: Nehru then turns to worldview..”Reading many of your articles in Young India, –your autobiography etc.– I have often felt how very different my ideals were from yours…You midjudge greatly, I think the civilization of the West and attach too great importance to its many failings..I nehing think that the so called Ramraj was very good in the past, nor do I want it back. I think that western or rather industrial civilization is bound to conquer India…Everybody knows these defects and the utopia and social theories are mend to remove them

..I doubt very much if the fundamentally causes of poverty are touched by [your remedy of village employment and constructive work]…You do not say a word against the semi-feudal zamidari [landlord] system…or against the capitalist exploitation of both the workers and the consumers.

Gandhi was not non-violent. Gandhi was Sergent Major in the British Army. He supported all the British wars, Boer, Zulu, Kaffir, WW1 and WW2. He threatened the British –”if we had the atom bomb we would use it against Britian”. He urged the government of Bharat (aka India) to wage war on Pakistan.

Martin Luther King used Thoreau, not Gandhi. As stated earlier–Dr. King did not follow fasting or filling the jails as they would not have worked in the USA. Dr. King thus followed Thoreau not Gandhi—despite the claims of the missionary who wanted to use Gandhi to convert all of Bharat to Christianity. The title “Mahatma” was to fool the poor Hindus into believing that Gandhi was an incarnation of Christ–this is how they converted thousands of Hindus to Christianity. All this is well document by Dr. Watson in his books

in the 60s, the hippy generation had no knowledge about the true colors of Gandhi–so there was some euphoria. The truth as it becomes more and more available will further eliminate all vestiges of the nonsense that has been accumulated.

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Union Jack goes down in the SubcontinentThe article is reflective of the broken down education system in India and elsewhere. Some get their history lessons from strange places? ….The Neocon abridged Encyclopedia edited by the RSS racists?

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Read the books by Gandhis grandsons and read Wolpert.Even the BJP has rejected Gandhi. Gandhi did not bring the British empire to its knees.

The article of Accession is now lost, was never signed and may never have existedThe biggest Urban Myth is that Mr. Gandhi led a movement for the independence from the British. Gandhi did not bring the British empire to its knees. In 1945 the tottering “empire” was its knees already. Actually it had been knocked out (KO!). WW2 with 50 million dead had totally destroyed London and decimated the infrastructure of the country. There was no appetite for empire. British voters threw out Churchill.The biggest Urban Myth is that Mr. Gandhi led a movement for the independence from the British. Gandhi did not bring the British empire to its knees. In 1945 the tottering “empire” was its knees already. Actually it had been knocked out (KO!). WW2 with 50 million dead had totally destroyed London and decimated the infrastructure of the country. There was no appetite for empire. British voters threw out Churchill.The British empire teetering on bankruptcy had no choice and had already decided to leave

London 1941 bombingThe exhausted British had already decided to leave all her colonies after the 2nd world war. Gandhi first introduced Hindu religious symbols to the Secular Indian National Congress and then tried to make all of India succumb to a racist Hindu Rajha rule.

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Mr. Gandhi’s support for the British wars (Boer, Zulu, Word War) actually extended the life of the empire. They could have been kicked out of the Subcontinent decades before 1947, but for the obsequious Mr. Gandhi who “loved the empire.”

Mr. Geert Wilders is not unique. The world should not be surprised at the Dutch. The soil of the Netherlands nurtures hatred. The Dutch have a long history of bigotry. From the Jan Van Reebeik, to the Brutal Boer Dutch colonialism, to the Apartheid regime in South Africa to the Nazi barbarism—the Dutch have supported racism.

Britain’s Neo-colonial role in the Subcontinent to achieve Mountbatten’s goals of “Akhand Bharat”Gandhi was a failure in South Africa and a failed attorney in Bombay. His failure hardened “Apartheid” and it took decades to dismantle it. This created a rift with the Black of South Africa who rejected this. Gandhi urged the colonial authorities to raise a volunteer militia of Indians to fight for the Empire. Gandhi informed the “South African Natal Authorities” that it would be a “criminal folly” if they did not enlist Indians for the war. Mr. Gandhi urged the Indian community to show their loyalty to the British Empire by raising funds for the War. He reminded them that they were in South Africa due to the courtesy of the Empire.Britain’s Neo-colonial role in the Subcontinent to achieve Mountbatten’s goals of “Akhand Bharat”Gandhi’s only role in South Africa was to support the British wars. Gandhi was a failure in South Africa and a failed attorney in Bombay. Gandhis sole contribution to history was to make 150 million Muslims of India subservient to the Hindus. Attempts to make another 300 million subservient continue. He was very racist and the record shows his racist comments about the natives.

Ayub Khan and his relationship with the USA before he took military action in 1958. He was awareded one of the highest medal of the USA. The frank conversation between the Ambassador and Ayub Khan is very revealingGandhi won a medal from the British for his service in the British wars.

This was the Gandhi view of the Africans. Another post lists all the racist comments that he had made towards the Africans.

Gandhi’s attitude towards the Africans was racist. In South Africa he never did anything for the blacks.

Is “India” is a failed state? After 60 years 560 states could not be put together as a “nation”

Debunking the movie. Shedding light on support for colonialism, empire, racism, and Hindu religious dogma

After 60 years. Cracks still showing in a Balkanized India

Gandhi was a failure in South Africa and a failed attorney in Bombay. His failure hardened “Apartheid” and it took decades to dismantle it. This created a rift with the Black of South Africa who rejected this. Gandhi urged the colonial authorities to raise a volunteer militia of Indians to fight for the Empire. Gandhi informed the “South African Natal Authorities” that it would be a “criminal folly” if they did not enlist Indians for the war. Mr. Gandhi urged the Indian community to show their loyalty to the British Empire by raising funds for the War. He reminded them that they were in South Africa due to the courtesy of the Empire.Mr. Gandhi was a total failure in South Africa. His sole gain was to ask his fellow Indians to support the British war efforts. He was imported into India by the bigoted Birla machinery to introduce religion symbols of a secular party called the Indian National Congress.

Gandhi first introduced Hindu religious symbols to Motilal Nehru’s Secular Indian National Congress and then tried to make all of India succumb to a racist Hindu Ram Rajha rule. The British brought Gandhi back to India from South Africa to sabotage Indian nationalSome of the biggest millionaires in India devised a marketing plan to construct a leader for a superstitious, illiterate and colonized people. Gandhi was the perfect candidate. He was imported from South Africa. Special trains were constructed to transport Gandhi in “3rd class” bogeys. The Salt March and his fast in Calcutta were managed events for publicity and fund raising. Huge crowds were attracted to this circus.  Funds were generated to support the Indian National Congress and other organizations which unleashed a campaign of terror against the Muslims of Bengal and Kashmir.  Initially the INC was not a communal organization but it used the RSS and the Jan Sangh to do its dirty work. The machinery worked overtime to put the Subcontinent on the track of Ram Rajhya.Gandhi first introduced Hindu religious symbols to Motilal Nehru’s Secular Indian National Congress and then tried to make all of India succumb to a racist Hindu Ram Rajha rule. The British brought Gandhi back to India from South Africa to sabotage Indian national movement against British rule. The Congress Party at the time was a secular party.  At the expense of other important people  Nehru-Gandhi were imposed on the party which had been  set up under the patronage of the British authorities.Gandhi’s political failures, his marketing gimmicks, his cartoonish monk clothes, his personal inadequacies, his sexual perversion, his illicit affairs with Western and Indian women, his pedophilia, his love affair with public display of enemas, and his tolerance of Patel and the Hindu bigots of the RSS and Jan Sangh are all enumerated even in Indian history books. His two grandsons recently discuss all these aspects in recent books.

Let us die for the empire

He repeatedly called Hitler “a friend” and then says, it is not just a ceremonial greeting. He told the Jews to commit mass suicide.

Gandhi’s wrote letters to his friend Hitler and supported him. Gandhi’s horrific advice to Jews—Commit mass suicide. “We have no doubt about your bravery or devotion to your fatherland, nor do we believe that you are the monster described by your opponents.” Gandhi to Hitler

Was Indira Gandhi involved with Mohandas Gandhi’s “Bharam Acharaya” pedophilia experiments with truth where he would sleep naked with young women including his niece Manu?Gandhi and his neiceGandhi and his neiceGandhi used to beat his wife up routinely and did not eliminate the caste system in India. Gandhi slept naked with his niece and other women to prove that he could control his manliness. Take a minute. Learn about the real leaders of the Subcontinent, Abdul Sattar Edhi, Shah Waliullah, Moinuddin Chisti, Qadir Khan, Abdus Salaam, Iqbal, Jinnah, Moudoodi, and Sir Syed.

Gandhi’s womenIndia. Indians drink cow urine which they call gaumutra. It is interesting to see the “finer things” of India. Stuff that you don’t see in Bollywood movies, and India’s Marketing Inc. Apprently cow urine is sold in bottles and in tablet and cream form in India. The internet is full of websites on the so called advantaes of drinking cow urine. One website called a cow, “a walking pharmacy”. Some sell it as “steralized and completely fresh”The British Empire does not even show half of PakistanMohandas Gandhi failed leadership in politics and Gandhis domestic violence and weird sexual perversion. Source: Two Gandhi grandsons. Mohandas- a true story of a man, his people and an empire, on Mahatma Gandhi” by former Parliamentarian and writer Mr. Rajmohan

A Spiritual Experience? The trouble began a week ago when the New Delhi Herald published a front page story reporting that Gandhi had spent the weekend with five attractive young women–aides in his nonviolent campaign–at his ashram in Sevegram. Meanwhile, his wife Kasturbai was 2,000 miles away at their mountain retreat in Kashmir recuperating from an illness.His failures, Pedophilia and sexual perversion fetishesHis failures, Pedophilia and sexual perversion fetishes

Widows in India250 million Dalits in India eek out a living in subhuman conditions250 million Dalits in India eek out a living in subhuman conditionsThese penury stricken Indians still live the same way. The Untouchables are at the bottom end of the ladder. Ms. Maywati the Dalit leader calls Mr. Gandhi as the worst enemy of the Dalits.

The real question that perplexes Muslims is how could Arabs be India’s friend?

Mr. Syed’s sycophantic fantasies about Mr. Mohandas Gandhi’s character and accomplishments are based on the broken education system of the Middle East which regurgitates India’s marketing Inc. propaganda as history to the gullible Arab youth.

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Mr. Mandela was incarcerated for belonging to the South African National Congress, a party shunned by Mr. Gandhi. Mr., King must have learned his orgies from Gandhi. Mr. Gandhi was a total failure in South Africa. His sole gain was to ask his fellow Indians to support the British war efforts. He was imported into India by the bigoted Birla machinery to introduce religion symbols of a secular party called the Indian National Congress.

Gandhi’s political failures, his marketing gimmicks, his cartoonish monk clothes, his personal inadequacies, his sexual perversion, his illicit affairs with Western and Indian women, his pedophilia, his love affair with public display of animas, and his tolerance of Patel and the Hindu bigots of the RSS and Jan Sangh are all enumerated even in Indian history books. His two grandsons recently discuss all these aspects in recent books.

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May 5, 2009

Revisiting “9 Hours to Rama”. Repudiating false history of Gandhi & Pakistan

Filed under: History of Pakistan, Independence movement — Moin Ansari @ 9:53 pm
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The rise of the Hinduvata in Bharat and rise to power of those that support the bigtory of Nathuram Godse is a seminal event in the history of South Asia. The fascism in Delhi has a reaction in the Hindu Kush. When Babri Masjid is destroyed, there is a reaction from Mecca to Morocco. When 2000 Muslims are burned in Gujarat, Djarkta to Djibouti feels the heat. The rise of fundamentalism in Bharat has an equal and opposite reaction in Pakistan. For Pakistanis Godse and Gandhi represent two faces of the same coin. For the Hinduvata, Gandhi represented appeasement and Godse represents the rise of the Saffron Brigade. For Pakistanis Gandhi is irrelevant to the history of Pakistan. For Godse, he is an essential ingredient. For Pakistanis, Pakistan came into being because of the national aspirations of hundreds of Muslims of South Asia. It cannot be reduced to the whims of one person. This essential difference in the national outlook represents a schism between the Hindus and the Muslims. This difference of opinion led to the creation of Pakistan.

The creation of Pakistan was the result of the glorious struggle of the Muslims of South Asia for a century. The Musslamans of South Asia had struggled to resurrect the Mughal rule since 1857. Millions worked to create a Muslim state. The producers of Nine Hours to Ramahas done a great disservice to South Asia. It portrays the views of a fanatic and in the end these views are pawned off as history. The movies tries to recreate history and portray the creation of Pakistan as a result of the personal decision of Mohandas Gandhi. This is far removed from historical fact but the impressions remain part of the Indian psyche.  Atlee: Gandhi’s role in UK decision to leave India was MINIMAL   

I declare that the future of the Hindu race, of Hindustan and of the Punjab, rests on these four pillars: (1) Hindu Sangathan, (2) Hindu Raj, (3) Shuddhi of Moslems, and (4) Conquest and Shuddhi of Afghanistan and the Frontiers. So long as the Hindu nation does not accomplish these four things, the safely of our children and great-grandchildren will be ever in danger, and the safety of the Hindu race will be impossible. The Hindu race has but one history, and its institutions are homogeneous. But the Musalmans and Christians are far removed from the confines of Hindustan, for their religions are alien and they love Persian, Arab and European institutions. Thus, just as one removes foreign matter from the eye, Shuddhi must be made of these two religions. Afghanistan and the hilly regions of the frontier were formerly part of India, but are at present under the domination of Islam. . . .

…Just as there is Hindu religion in Nepal, so there must be Hindu institutions in Afghanistan and the frontier territory; otherwise it is useless to win Swaraj. For mountain tribes are always warlike and hungry. If they become our enemies, the age of Nadirshah and Zamanshah will begin anew. At present English officers are protecting the frontiers; but it cannot always be. . . .If Hindus want to protect themselves, they must conquer Afghanistan and the frontiers and convert all the mountain tribes.” Excerpted from Dr. Ambedkar’s book “Pakistan”.

Our Aim Is Make “A khand Hindusthan” Which was Martyre Nathuram Godse’s and martyre Narayan Apte’s last Dream. http://www.hindurashtra.everwork.com Nine

Extracts from Marathi book Nathuramayan by Y. D. Phadke
http://www.mkgandhi-sarvodaya.org/godse.htm Hours

Hindu Unity & Soldiers of Hindutva http://www.hinduunity.org

Another site dedicated to Nathuram Godse http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/1800/index.htm

9 hours to Rama tells the story of the assassination of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi the Hindu leader of the Indian National Congress. He and Mohammad Ali Jinnah spearheaded the independence movement that led to the creation of India and Pakistan. Many bigoted Hindus feel that the latter is more like an unwanted step child that was a byproduct of the birth and thereby hangs a tale of confrontation that has lasted to this day.

Gandhi’s racism: The truth behind the mask. Behold Sergeant-Major Gandhi who supported the British during the Boer War and Zulu Rebellion. Behold the prophet of peace who worked to stratify the society in South Africa, Whites, Indians and Blacks based on the Hindu Caste system. Behold the “Enlightened One” that supported the British effort in World War one, and packed off thousands to the war effort to be used as cannon-fodder. Behold the pacifist that sent thousands to kill millions. Behold the “mahatma” that supported the British in World War 2 and encouraged the Indians to support the British war, thus perpetuating the colonial rule in the Subcontinent and supporting the Empire.

Horst Bucholtz plays Nathuram Gotse who actually managed to get up close and personal in 1948 to slay a man many regard as a 20th century saint. Though Gandhi’s facade of non-violent resistance worked to build a false image, it played a very insiginificant role in the daparture of the British from South Asia. The British had already decided to leave Britain and Prime Minister Atlee said that the decision to leave South Asia was not influenced by Gandhi all. The blunders of the Indian National Congress and their bigoted views could not keep  the Muslim population from creating its own separate state of Pakistan.

China, Egypt, Pakistan and Iraq were the superpowers five thousands years ago: That world of pre-history defines today’s current affairs! The 7000 year old Pakistani Civilization

The Geographic 2 Nation Theory

 

Visit http://www.pakhistorian.com for History of Pakistan

Pakistan as it existed 5000 years ago

Those years marked one of the bloodiest conflicts of the last century as Muslims were hounded out of India and and Hindus both migrated to Bharat. The RSS and other bigoted parties wanted to deport or convert all Muslims and could not tolerate an independent Muslim state on the borders. Gotse blamed Gandhi for conceding too much to the leader of the Muslim separatists Mohammed Ali Jinnah as did many.

Bucholtz does a good job in playing the fanatic. The film is dominated by J.S. Casshyap who portrays Mohandas Gandhi. Part of it in newsreel footage. The frustration of Jose Ferrer as the dedicated police inspector who knows there’s a real plot out there, but is helpless as Gandhi will not let him take the slightest kinds of precautions nor will Gandhi alter his schedule. And the scene where Congress Party politician Robert Morley is trying to wangle an endorsement from Mohandas Gandhi ever so gently turns him down is very amusing.

TIME (FEBRUARY 14, 2000 VOL. 155 NO. 6) W E B – O N L Y I N T E R V I E W

“His Principle of Peace Was Bogus”: Gopal Godse, co-conspirator in Gandhi’s assassination and brother of the assassin, looks back in anger–and without regret

 Hemant Pithwa/India Today

 Fifty-two years ago, on Jan. 30, 1948, Mohandas Gandhi was shot dead by Nathuram Godse, a Hindu extremist. Godse believed that the Mahatma, or great soul, was responsible for the 1947 partition of India and the creation of Pakistan. Godse and his friend Narayan Apte were hanged. His brother Gopal and two others were sentenced to life imprisonment for their part in the conspiracy. Gopal Godse remained in jail for 18 years and now, at 80, lives with his wife in a small apartment in Pune. He is still proud of his role in the murder. Although Godse is largely ignored in India and rarely talks to journalists, he agreed to speak with TIME Delhi correspondent Meenakshi Ganguly.

TIME: What happened in January 1948?

Godse: On Jan. 20, Madanlal Pahwa exploded a bomb at Gandhi’s prayer meeting in Delhi. It was 50 m away from Gandhi. [The other conspirators] all ran away from the place. Madanlal was caught there. Then there was a tension in our minds that we had to finish the task before the police caught us. Then Nathuram [Gopal's brother] took it on himself to do the thing. We only wanted destiny to help us — meaning we should not be caught on the spot before he acted.

TIME: Why did you want to kill Gandhi?

Godse: Gandhi was a hypocrite. Even after the massacre of the Hindus by the Muslims, he was happy. The more the massacres of the Hindus, the taller his flag of secularism.

TIME: Did you ever see Gandhi?

Godse: Yes.

TIME: Did you attend his meetings?

Godse: Yes.

TIME: Can you explain how he created his mass following?

Godse: The credit goes to him for maneuvering the media. He captured the press. That was essential. How Gandhi walked, when he smiled, how he waved — all these minor details that the people did not require were imposed upon them to create an atmosphere around Gandhi. And the more ignorant the masses, the more popular was Gandhi. So they always tried to keep the masses ignorant.

TIME: But surely it takes more than good publicity to create a Gandhi?

Godse: There is another thing. Generally in the Indian masses, people are attracted toward saintism. Gandhi was shrewd to use his saintdom for politics. After his death the government used him. The government knew that he was an enemy of Hindus, but they wanted to show that he was a staunch Hindu. So the first act they did was to put “Hey Ram” into Gandhi’s dead mouth.

TIME: You mean that he did not say “Hey Ram” as he died?

Godse: No, he did not say it. You see, it was an automatic pistol. It had a magazine for nine bullets but there were actually seven at that time. And once you pull the trigger, within a second, all the seven bullets had passed. When these bullets pass through crucial points like the heart, consciousness is finished. You have no strength.

When Nathuram saw Gandhi was coming, he took out the pistol and folded his hands with the pistol inside it. There was one girl very close to Gandhi. He feared that he would hurt the girl. So he went forward and with his left hand pushed her aside and shot. It happened within one second. You see, there was a film and some Kingsley fellow had acted as Gandhi. Someone asked me whether Gandhi said, “Hey Ram.” I said Kingsley did say it. But Gandhi did not. Because that was not a drama.

TIME: Many people think Gandhi deserved to be nominated TIME’s Person of the Century. [He was one of two runners-up, after Albert Einstein.]

Godse: I name him the most cruel person for Hindus in India. The most cruel person! That is how I term him.

TIME: Is that why Gandhi had to die?

Godse: Yes. For months he was advising Hindus that they must never be angry with the Muslims. What sort of ahimsa (non-violence) is this? His principle of peace was bogus. In any free country, a person like him would be shot dead officially because he was encouraging the Muslims to kill Hindus.

TIME: But his philosophy was of turning the other cheek. He felt one person had to stop the cycle of violence…

Godse: The world does not work that way.

TIME: Is there anything that you admire about Gandhi?

Godse: Firstly, the mass awakening that Gandhi did. In our school days Gandhi was our idol. Secondly, he removed the fear of prison. He said it is different to go into prison for a theft and different to go in for satyagraha (civil disobedience). As youngsters, we had our enthusiasm, but we needed some channel. We took Gandhi to be our channel. We don’t repent for that.

TIME: Did you not admire his principles of non-violence?

Godse: Non-violence is not a principle at all. He did not follow it. In politics you cannot follow non-violence. You cannot follow honesty. Every moment, you have to give a lie. Every moment you have to take a bullet in hand and kill someone. Why was he proved to be a hypocrite? Because he was in politics with his so-called principles. Is his non-violence followed anywhere? Not in the least. Nowhere.

TIME: What was the most difficult thing about killing Gandhi?

Godse: The greatest hurdle before us was not that of giving up our lives or going to the gallows. It was that we would be condemned both by the government and by the public. Because the public had been kept in the dark about what harm Gandhi had done to the nation. How he had fooled them!

TIME: Did the people condemn you?

Godse: Yes. People in general did. Because they had been kept ignorant.

The snapshot of this interview has been taken from the TIME Magazine’s Website

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‘Gandhi used to systematically fool people. So we killed him’

Gopal Godse The lights go off as you reach the dilapidated building in Santa Cruz, in Bombay’s western suburbs. With great difficulty you navigate the stairs and knock on a first-floor door. Gopal Godse.

“What do you want,” asks the lady who opened the door.

You tell her you have come to meet

“Yes, I’m here,” a voice comes from a corner of the dark room. The lady brings a lighted candle and you see the 76-year-old man who underwent 18 years imprisonment for conspiring in Mahatma Gandhi’s assassination. Firdaus Syed Ashraf:

“I’m sorry the lights are off,” Nathuram Godse’s brother says, “You know, this is India and even after 50 years of Independence we have not improved.

“Since Independence our people are accustomed to forget history. Today no one is bothered about the Partition. And no one wants to reunite India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

“Gandhi systematically fooled the people by saying, ‘I’ll accept the Partition of the country over my dead body.’ But still he partitioned India. So we killed him…”

Godse, in an exclusive interview with

Do you ever regret Mahatma Gandhi’s killing?

Mahatma Gandhi No, never. Gandhi used to claim the Partition would be over his dead body. So after Partition when he didn’t die, we killed him. Usually an assassination of a leader is either for personal benefit or to acquire power. We killed Gandhi because he was harmful to India. And it was a selfless act. No one paid us a single penny for it. Our love for the motherland made us do it. We are not ashamed of it. Gandhi should have been honest to admit that his life was a failure.

You see, right from Pakistan and Bangladesh every Muslim is a converted Hindu. Gandhi’s appeasement attitude (towards the Muslims) went far too much. That was why we killed him. Two hundred and fifty thousand Hindus were killed in Noakhali in October 1946. Hindu women were forced to remove their sindhoor and do Muslim rituals. And Gandhi said, ‘Hindus must bow their heads if Muslims want to kill them. We should follow the principle of ahimsa (non-violence).’ How can any sensible person tolerate this? Our action was not for a handful of people — it was for all the refugees who came from Pakistan.

So, till this day, I have never regreted being one of the conspirators in Gandhi’s assassination. In fact, many of Nathuram’s friends told me after my release, ‘Nathuram ni gadhav pana kela, tyani majha chance ghalavla‘ (Nathuram did you an injustice. He made you miss your chance to kill Gandhi).

Did your family undergo any social pressure after the assassination?

Yes, very much. No one used to be ready to marry girls from my family. So we decided that the first thing we should put across to the bridegroom was that we are related to Nathuram Godse. It is only now that people appreciate our honesty. Now they are ready for marriage (into my family).

If the Muslim League could influence the Muslims in 1947, why was it that the Hindu Mahasabha could not influence Hindus?

(That was) because I don’t have any leadership quality. My talent is to write. And I have convinced my readers with my writing.

Unfortunately, the so-called secular Hindu leaders from the Congress have been ruling the masses since 1885. And they have ruled the country for another 50 years. It is only now that Hindus have become conscious (about the Congress). They have thrown the party out from Maharashtra and all over India.

You cannot gauge a nation in merely five decades. It took 500 years for the Christians to drive away Muslims from Europe. Muslims ruled right up to Spain and Portugal. I don’t know how many years it will take for Hindus to rule the entire Bharat. It may be a decade, or it may be a century.

Did you ever contest elections?

Yes, I contested from Ranchi in Bihar. People asked me why I was contesting there. I said my slogan is ‘Ab ke bar Ranchi se agli bar Karachi se‘. (This election I will contest from Ranchi and the next from Karachi). I was able to secure only 7,000 votes because I did not have any mass support.

Can Muslims and Hindus ever live together in peace?

Yes, if the Muslims give up their blind faith. It is written in the Koran that idol worship is not permitted. If Muslims don’t want Hindus to pray to their gods, how can they live together with them (the Hindus)? They want to convert Hindus to Islam not realising that their ancestors were Hindus. They must give up this attitude. Then only the two can live together.

And who created Pakistan? It wasn’t the Arabs but the Muslims of Bharat. Who was Jinnah? His grandfather was a Hindu. Benazir Bhutto is also a Hindu Rajput.

Every Muslim nation keeps away from modern science. And when they do that they are left far behind the rest of the world. When the telephone was invented, Muslim countries were not using it. They said it is not mentioned in the Koran, that it was un-Islamic!

Of the 140 million Muslims in India, how many would you say want to convert Hindus to Islam?

The number is not important. What’s important is that it is written in their religion. They have already shown that by creating Pakistan. No secular Hindu can go for Haj. Why is it so that only Muslims are allowed there? Is it because only Muslims are secular?

Who wants to expand Islam in India? Can you name them?

No. You have to understand one thing. Individually a Muslim may be good to the Hindus. But when in a group, he will be out of the national mainstream.

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